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Ep. 85 - How I Found Recovery With the NET Device - Rebekah Mutch

In this episode, Christina Dent talks with Rebekah Mutch about how she found recovery with the help of neuro-electric therapy (NET), a device that eases withdrawal symptoms and cravings. Rebekah shares what life was like after 8 other treatment attempts, what changed during her time at Isaiah House, and why she now works to make NET available to others.

 

This is an honest, down-to-earth conversation about a lesser-known pathway to recovery that could be one of the best tools we have - if only more people know about it.

 

Resources & Links:

• Isaiah House website: https://isaiah-house.org/
• NET Recovery: https://www.netrecovery.net/
• End It For Good's website: https://enditforgood.com/
• Listen to our other episodes about NET: https://enditforgood.com/may-2025

Ep. 84 - Detox in Your Pocket: One Clinic's Bold Bet on the Future of Addiction Treatment - Mark LaPalme

Mark LaPalme spent years in active addiction and was arrested upwards of 40 times. He couldn’t have imagined he'd one day be at the forefront of addiction recovery. But after finding freedom through his own recovery journey, he built a network of treatment centers in Kentucky called Isaiah House that would become a lifeline for thousands, and the unlikely site of a groundbreaking clinical trial.

In this episode, we explore what happened when Mark said yes to testing a new detox device called Neuro-Electric Therapy (NET) that promised big things in a small package. What followed was both deeply personal and quietly revolutionary, resulting in FDA clearance in 2024. The future of detox (and how it will reshape addiction treatment) is here. 

Mark is a masterful storyteller and passionate advocate, living out his values in inspiring ways as he continues to work to save every life and give every person hope that he can. He describes watching people on NET as watching "a miracle happen before your eyes."

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Resources & Links:
- Isaiah House website: https://isaiah-house.org/

- NET Recovery: https://www.netrecovery.net/

- All Together Recovery: https://alltogetherrecovery.com/

- Christina's book Curious: https://a.co/d/fVecLLx

Ep. 83 - NET Recovery: A New Path Out of Opioid Addiction - Jeff Lott

Jeff Lott once thought the NET Recovery device sounded too good to be true. Today, he’s the Communications Director for the company behind it. In this episode, Jeff shares how a chance family connection led him into the heart of a growing movement to transform withdrawal and recovery.

Developed from an accidental discovery involving electro-acupuncture, NET Recovery uses a small device to ease withdrawal symptoms and eliminate cravings in just a few days—without the use of medication. It’s already changing lives in jails and treatment centers, offering a third path that doesn’t fit the usual “medicated or abstinent” binary.

Jeff walks us through the origins of NET Recovery, the clinical trial process, and the roadblocks they face in gaining acceptance—despite promising results. If you care about innovation in addiction recovery, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

🔗 Learn more at netrecovery.net

Ep. 82 - NET Recovery Saved My Daughter—And Might Have Saved My Son: A Mother’s Story - Pattie Vargas

In this deeply moving and ultimately uplifting episode, Christina Dent sits down with Pattie Vargas—a mother who has lived through the heartbreak of losing a son to overdose and the joy of watching her daughter find lasting recovery.

Pattie shares her family’s journey with remarkable honesty, from years of struggle and loss to an unexpected turning point: discovering NET Recovery, a device designed to ease the pain of withdrawal and help reduce cravings. It was this breakthrough approach, used at Isaiah House in Kentucky, that helped her daughter begin a new life after years of homelessness and addiction.

More than a story of loss, this is a story of what’s possible. Pattie offers hard-won insight, fierce compassion, and a vision for recovery rooted in connection, innovation, and hope. If you’ve ever wondered whether real change is possible—even after everything—this conversation is for you.

🔗 Learn more about Pattie Vargas and her grief support offerings https://theresilientjourney.net
🔗 For more information about NET https://netrecovery.com

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Ep. 81 - Mississippi’s Bold Shift in Addiction Treatment - Dr. Dan Edney

What if Mississippi could lead the nation in turning the tide on addiction?

In this episode, Christina Dent talks with Dr. Dan Edney, Mississippi’s State Health Officer and a physician specializing in addiction medicine. They dive into the quiet revolution taking place in our state—from expanding access to medication-assisted treatment (MAT) to legalizing fentanyl test strips to saturating communities with naloxone.

Dr. Edney shares how Mississippi became one of only five states to reduce overdose deaths for two years in a row—and why saving lives must be prioritized. They discuss why harm reduction saves taxpayer dollars, how recovery truly happens, and what still needs to change—like ending the ban on syringe services.

You’ll also hear about Mississippi’s groundbreaking MSUD program, offering free treatment and MAT through local health departments, and why Dr. Edney believes it's time to treat addiction as a health issue.

Whether you're new to these conversations or deeply engaged in reform, this episode will leave you with real hope.

🔗 Learn more and get a free naloxone kit (for Mississippi residents only): odfree.org

🔗 Mississippi Department of Health MSUD Program: https://bit.ly/4cLYqfa

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Ep. 80 - A Surgeon's Plan to Heal the Harm of Drugs - Dr. Carr McClain

In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Carr McClain, a seasoned cardiovascular surgeon who has seen the human toll of failed drug policy in the ER as well as the OR. He helps us connect the dots between drug policy and the health of everyday people who pay the price.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Dr. McClain’s early experiences as a medical school graduate, encountering the violence tied to the underground drug market as he worked in one of the busiest Emergency Rooms in the US.
• How the criminalization of drugs has led to contamination, causing long-term damage to people's heart valves that he encounters in the Operating Room today.
• The challenges we face with the botanical kratom, and how it presents an opportunity to get things right when it comes to public health.

About Dr. Carr McClain: Dr. McClain is a cardiovascular surgeon, father of six, and husband to Pam. When he's not in the operating room, you can find him cheering on his alma mater, Duke University, where he studied before completing medical school at the University of Virginia, a residency at VCU, and a fellowship at the University of Florida.

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Ep. 79 - Crime is Money: How Banning Drugs Bankrolls Violence - Johann Hari

Today's episode is a rebroadcast of a popular show we did with New York Times Bestselling author Johann Hari, on his research about drug markets and how drug prohibition incentivizes and rewards crime and violence. We're creating the very thing we're supposed to be fighting. 

It's counter-intuitive, but the harder we crack down on the drug supply, the more crime we have seen and will continue to see. It's not chance. It's economics, and Johann breaks it down and makes it easy to understand for everyone. 

His book, “Chasing the Scream: the First and Last Days of the War on Drugs,” helped spark the movement that created End It For Good and this podcast.

Ep. 78 - Kratom Saved Me From Opioid Addiction - Lisha Adcock

Lisha Adcock is a hair stylist from Meridian, Mississippi, who became addicted to opioids after struggling with chronic pain. After years of chaos and draining her bank account to pay for pills, she had to find a way out.

Kratom is a natural product made from the leaves of a tree in Asia. It has been used as a stimulant and pain reliever in that part of the world for hundreds of years, and has become popular in the United States as the war on legal opioids has intensified over the last 15 years.

Lisha shares her story of hope as kratom helped her overcome her opioid addiction and be able to manage chronic pain and continue to work and be present for her kids.

You can read Lisha's story here from The Magnolia Tribune and read more kratom news and stories here. 

Ep. 77 - What Would a World With More Legal Drugs Look Like? - Dr. Jeffrey Singer

Dr. Jeffrey Singer is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. He is the Founder of Valley Surgical Clinics, the largest and oldest private group surgical practice in Arizona. He has been in private practice as a general surgeon for more than 40 years. He is also a visiting fellow at the Goldwater Institute in Phoenix. Singer is a member of the Board of Scientific Advisors of the American Council on Science and Health. He writes and speaks extensively on regional and national public policy, with a specific focus on the areas of healthcare policy and the harmful effects of drug prohibition.

In this episode Dr. Singer shares his extensive knowledge on the history of prohibition, then the crackdown on prescription drugs, and what a world with more legal drugs might look like. He busts a few myths too, and some of them will blow your mind because they're opposite what we hear on the news. Dr. Singer believes a much healthier world is available to us if we move away from prohibition, let doctors be doctors, and police be police, and allow adults to have more legal, regulated options for substance use.

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Ep. 76 - Less Yelling, More Questions: How to Walk With Your Loved One Through Addiction - Jan Moore

Jan Moore lost her only son to an overdose almost ten years ago, and her journey of healing led her to go back to school and become a licensed professional counselor who has worked with people struggling with addiction as well as their families since then. Today she shares her story as well as talks about Community Reinforcement and Family Training (CRAFT), Motivational Interviewing (MI), Invitation to Change, and how families can be healthier as well as helping their loved one be healthier. She's passionate about teaching families how to truly help, and helping them as they lay down the battle for control and embrace an approach of influence. 

Jan is a licensed professional counselor in private practice in Hattiesburg, MS. She has lived in Hattiesburg for about forty years. She is married to James Moore and has two children, one of whom is deceased. Prior to becoming a counselor, she worked as an elementary school teacher and an admin assistant at a local hospital.  She worked in an inpatient substance use disorder facility for five years after getting her master's degree. She has been in private practice for the last several years. In both settings, she has gotten experience working with people with substance use disorders and dual diagnoses as well as their families.

Jan talks about:
Invitation to Change: https://cmcffc.org/approach/invitation-to-change
CRAFT training and support: https://alliesinrecovery.net/
Motivational Interviewing: https://motivationalinterviewing.org/understanding-motivational-interviewing

You can reach Jan through Journeys Counseling here: https://journeyscounselingcenter.clientsecure.me/